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The Megami Tensei Thread

SMT IV final

Following a Twitter-based countdown, Atlus revealed the new title Shin Megami Tensei IV Final. Famitsu is reporting that the game is a completely new title and will be released for Nintendo 3DS on February 10, 2016 in Japan.

Shin Megami Tensei IV Final is said to feature deicide as a key theme. It is unclear at this stage exactly how the game relates to Shin Megami Tensei IV, but more information will be released over the next week.
http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2015/100515d.html

It seems to be a side story (set during the main game) staring Akira. Yes, I had to look up who that was too.

Based on that one image it looks like they've possibly redone some of the demon artwork in one consistent style, which would be great if true, but then again they did the same thing with the SMTIV cover art and it didn't reflect the game at all.

Drav fucked around with this message on 2015/10/06 at 10:07:18.
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Luth
Eh.

It seems odd to come out with a side story this long after the original came out. That feels really lazy. The SMT series is one of my favourites, but I'm not going to pay for such an incremental upgrade. It's going to have to have a hell of a lot of additional content for me to bother with this, especially after it took so long for the IV to even come out here in Europe.
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Luth fucked around with this message on 2015/10/07 at 00:11:04.
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KaaVink
This mostly reminds me that I still need to actually finish SMTIV at some stage.
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Drav
2.5 years for a glorified level pack would indeed be embarrassing, but I'm not sure that's what this is. I suspect Atlus made another game in IV's universe because they're all about brand recognition now days, and SMT IV was (for better or worse) the best selling SMT game. Personally I was hoping for a remake of the original SMT in IV's engine, but I'll be more than happy to play this if it's IV with better characters and art design. Atlus will probably never make another game as good as Nocturne but IV was the only JRPG I've liked enough to finish in years.

Drav fucked around with this message on 2015/10/06 at 12:17:33.
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Drav
http://gematsu.com/2015/10/shin-mega...racter-details

Sounds like it's a sequel based on the neutral ending of IV.
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Luth
Yeah, Nocturne is still probably my favourite RPG of all time. Such a brilliantly crafted experience.

IV was great, but a bit too bloated for my liking.

I'll remain cautiously optimistic for now. Though if the last game is anything to go by, we'll be waiting another two years before we ever get the chance to play it...
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Drav
This is why I have an import US 3DS. But it seems like SMTIV was delayed so much because the company that was originally handling the localization dropped it, so it probably won't be as bad this time.
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Drav
Scans:

SMTIVF 1
SMTIVF 2
SMTIVF 3
SMTIVF 4
SMTIVF 5
SMTIVF 6
SMTIVF 7
SMTIVF 8
SMTIVF 9
SMTIVF 10
SMTIVF 11

The MC is... uh... but the rest are a huge, huge improvement over IV. Still pretty anime but eh, it's what the kids want.
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Luth
The MC looks like a rejected hybrid of the Demi-Fiend and a Beyblade character... urk.
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Drav
Scan translations. Some of the interview questions are hilarious. "SMT4F has been praised as having an ‘awesome story’". By who? Atlus?
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KaaVink
Drav wrote: This is why I have an import US 3DS. But it seems like SMTIV was delayed so much because the company that was originally handling the localization dropped it, so it probably won't be as bad this time.
Speaking of which, I should probably import a US region game at some point to test whether the region lock removal that I found works.
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Drav
Changing the thread title because we don't need multiple threads:



Megami Tensei finally goes full anime.
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Fidel Castro
I've yet to play SMT, except for the first one which I honestly tried to like but found it to be a tad bit too primitive and confusing. Am I a horrible person?
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Drav
No, "primitive and confusing" describes the first game pretty well, although I think it's still worth playing for the atmosphere. Nocturne was the first genuinely great Megami Tensei game.
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Luth
That trailer does not give me high hopes for the game. I'm sure the core experience will still be great, but the art style is so far removed from Shin Megami Tensei they might as well call it Persona.
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Drav
I have a feeling that Nintendo decided they'd rather just have their own Persona game early in production and scrapped whatever this game was originally going to be. I like Persona well enough and wasn't really sold on the whole crossover thing anyway, but this could not possibly be less relevant to either Fire Emblem or SMT.
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Drav
SMT X FE only sold 23,000 copies in its first week, which is apparently only like 20% of its shipment. Somone fucked up bad.
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Fidel Castro
So...I'm not alone in thinking that a SMT & FE crossover is like one of the most random things ever?
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Luth
Fidel Castro wrote: So...I'm not alone in thinking that a SMT & FE crossover is like one of the most random things ever?
It is. And it seems to be doing a bad job of emulating both.

Persona x Fire Emblem would be far more accurate. It doesn't feel like Shin Megami Tensei at all.
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Drav
Some stellar stuff going on in the latest Persona 5 trailer:



None of the other JRPGs on the horizon even come close to looking this good.
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Dalkaen
Yeah, this looks incredible. I imagine the NA release is still pretty far out. I'll have Tokyo Mirage, FFXV, and Trails of Cold Steel II to play in the meantime.
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Howth Castle and Environs
It’s rare that anything makes me regret that I don’t have any current-gen consoles, but this certainly does it. Can’t think of anything else that has that effect except the Wii U Zelda.
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“The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. If you can’t lick ’em, join ’em. If it hurts, repeat it. But to praise despair is to condemn delight, to embrace violence is to lose hold of everything else. We have almost lost hold; we can no longer describe happy man, nor make any celebration of joy.”
-Ursula K. Le Guin, “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas

“I never knew a man could tell so many lies
He had a different story for every set of eyes
How can he remember who he’s talking to?
’Cause I know it ain’t me, and I hope it isn’t you”
-Neil Young, “Ambulance Blues”
I’m armed to the teeth
Like a fucking animal
I ruin everything
I get my bony hands on

And here we go now over the bridge of sighs
We will get a cross like Christ, crucified
It’s like a birth but it is in reverse
Never gets better, always gets worse
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
Vaulting, veering, vomiting up the values that victimized me, feeling vast,
feeling virginal... was this how he felt? This verve, this vitality... this vision...

La voie... la vérité... la vie.
(SPOILER)
The Dead Flag Blues
The car is on fire, and there’s no driver at the wheel, and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides, and a dark wind blows. The government is corrupt, and we’re on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn. We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death. The sun has fallen down, and the billboards are all leering, and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles.

It went like this: The buildings tumbled in on themselves; mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair. The skyline was beautiful on fire, all twisted metal stretching upwards, everything washed in a thin orange haze. I said, “Kiss me, you are beautiful; these are truly the last days.” You grabbed my hand, and we fell into it like a daydream or a fever.

We woke up one morning and fell a little further down; for sure it’s the valley of death. I open up my wallet, and it’s full of blood.
Gravity’s Rainbow
The Smashing Pumpkins
we can watch the world devoured in its hate.
The late prophet Bill Hicks
I’m so sick of arming the world and then sending troops over to destroy the fucking arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries then we go and blow the shit out of ’em. We’re like the bullies of the world, you know. We’re like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder’s feet: “Pick it up.” “I don’t wanna pick it up, mister; you’ll shoot me.” “Pick up the gun.” “Mister, I don’t want no trouble, huh. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don’t even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain’t looking for no trouble, mister.” “Pick up the gun.” Boom, boom. “You all saw him. He had a gun.”

moar I’ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. “I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.” “I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.” “Hey, wait a minute, there’s one guy holding out both puppets!” “Shut up! Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you fucking morons.”

All governments are liars and murderers. Go back to bed, America! Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control again. Here, here’s American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed, America! Here is American Gladiators; here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom! Here you go, America: You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!

The Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that’s their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm… Sounds like… every commercial on television, doesn’t it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I’m not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that’s the connection they’re trying to make.

I have this feeling man, ’cause you know, it’s just a handful of people who run everything, you know… that’s true, it’s provable. It’s not… I’m not a fucking conspiracy nut; it’s provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scumfucks who got you in there. And you’re in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down, and a big guy with a cigar goes, “Roll the film.” And it’s a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you’ve never seen before that looks suspiciously like it’s from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, “Any questions?” “Er, just what my agenda is.” “First we bomb Baghdad.” “You got it…”

They don’t want the voice of reason spoken, folks, ’cause otherwise, we’d be free. Otherwise, we wouldn’t believe their fucking horseshit lies, nor the fucking propaganda machine of the mainstream media and buy their horseshit products that we don’t fucking need and become a third world consumer fucking plantation, which is what we’re becoming. Fuck them! They are liars and murderers. All governments are liars and murderers, and I am now Jesus, and this is MY compound.

The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it’s very brightly coloured and it’s very loud and it’s fun for awhile. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question, is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, “hey – don't worry, don’t be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride…” And we… kill those people. Haha. “Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real.” It’s just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus murdered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan… wounded. But it doesn’t matter because it’s just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It’s only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defences each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace. Thank you; you’ve been great.

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Fidel Castro
I wish I was more invested in the Persona series so I could join in on the hype. Still have only played Persona 2 Innocent Sin (which I really liked but never finished due to hard drive failure). What the hell happened to all those promises of playing P3 and P4 all those years ago? Fuck me -__-
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Drav
They're all stand-alone stories so there's no reason not to jump in with this one.
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Fidel Castro
Oh right, I had forgotten about that.
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DigitalGhost
The only Megami Tensei games I've played (but not finished) are Devil Survivor, Devil Survivor: Overclocked, and Strange Journey. Lord, the level grinding. My friend keeps on hounding me to play one of the Persona games, but it's only for the Vita, and I only have a 3DS. Nevermind, I think Persona 4 is available for the PS3, but you know...cba. The last games I played (but again, never finished) are Majora's Mask for the 3DS and Animal Crossing: Home Designer (shut up).
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Dalkaen
I feel like I might try playing Eternal Punishment soon since it's the only Persona title (aside from P4 Golden) that I haven't played yet. Could make a decent video too, I suppose. I wish I'd recorded footage for Innocent Sin since I also emulated that.
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Howth Castle and Environs
I'm terrible about starting games and never finishing them. I can't think of the last time I played a game for the first time that I eventually finished. It must have been years ago. The only games I've completed in the last several years have been old-school Zelda and Mario games, which are comparatively short when compared to most JRPGs. If something has a running time of longer than about ten hours, I probably won't finish it.

Which is a shame, because the Persona series seems like the kind of thing I would otherwise enjoy, but I very obviously just don't have the patience for JRPGs anymore.
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“The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. If you can’t lick ’em, join ’em. If it hurts, repeat it. But to praise despair is to condemn delight, to embrace violence is to lose hold of everything else. We have almost lost hold; we can no longer describe happy man, nor make any celebration of joy.”
-Ursula K. Le Guin, “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas

“I never knew a man could tell so many lies
He had a different story for every set of eyes
How can he remember who he’s talking to?
’Cause I know it ain’t me, and I hope it isn’t you”
-Neil Young, “Ambulance Blues”
I’m armed to the teeth
Like a fucking animal
I ruin everything
I get my bony hands on

And here we go now over the bridge of sighs
We will get a cross like Christ, crucified
It’s like a birth but it is in reverse
Never gets better, always gets worse
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
Vaulting, veering, vomiting up the values that victimized me, feeling vast,
feeling virginal... was this how he felt? This verve, this vitality... this vision...

La voie... la vérité... la vie.
(SPOILER)
The Dead Flag Blues
The car is on fire, and there’s no driver at the wheel, and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides, and a dark wind blows. The government is corrupt, and we’re on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn. We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death. The sun has fallen down, and the billboards are all leering, and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles.

It went like this: The buildings tumbled in on themselves; mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair. The skyline was beautiful on fire, all twisted metal stretching upwards, everything washed in a thin orange haze. I said, “Kiss me, you are beautiful; these are truly the last days.” You grabbed my hand, and we fell into it like a daydream or a fever.

We woke up one morning and fell a little further down; for sure it’s the valley of death. I open up my wallet, and it’s full of blood.
Gravity’s Rainbow
The Smashing Pumpkins
we can watch the world devoured in its hate.
The late prophet Bill Hicks
I’m so sick of arming the world and then sending troops over to destroy the fucking arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries then we go and blow the shit out of ’em. We’re like the bullies of the world, you know. We’re like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder’s feet: “Pick it up.” “I don’t wanna pick it up, mister; you’ll shoot me.” “Pick up the gun.” “Mister, I don’t want no trouble, huh. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don’t even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain’t looking for no trouble, mister.” “Pick up the gun.” Boom, boom. “You all saw him. He had a gun.”

moar I’ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. “I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.” “I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.” “Hey, wait a minute, there’s one guy holding out both puppets!” “Shut up! Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you fucking morons.”

All governments are liars and murderers. Go back to bed, America! Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control again. Here, here’s American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed, America! Here is American Gladiators; here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom! Here you go, America: You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!

The Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that’s their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm… Sounds like… every commercial on television, doesn’t it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I’m not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that’s the connection they’re trying to make.

I have this feeling man, ’cause you know, it’s just a handful of people who run everything, you know… that’s true, it’s provable. It’s not… I’m not a fucking conspiracy nut; it’s provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scumfucks who got you in there. And you’re in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down, and a big guy with a cigar goes, “Roll the film.” And it’s a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you’ve never seen before that looks suspiciously like it’s from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, “Any questions?” “Er, just what my agenda is.” “First we bomb Baghdad.” “You got it…”

They don’t want the voice of reason spoken, folks, ’cause otherwise, we’d be free. Otherwise, we wouldn’t believe their fucking horseshit lies, nor the fucking propaganda machine of the mainstream media and buy their horseshit products that we don’t fucking need and become a third world consumer fucking plantation, which is what we’re becoming. Fuck them! They are liars and murderers. All governments are liars and murderers, and I am now Jesus, and this is MY compound.

The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it’s very brightly coloured and it’s very loud and it’s fun for awhile. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question, is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, “hey – don't worry, don’t be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride…” And we… kill those people. Haha. “Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real.” It’s just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus murdered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan… wounded. But it doesn’t matter because it’s just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It’s only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defences each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace. Thank you; you’ve been great.

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September 20. Four days after DQVII fffffff
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Kane
Ⓐaron wrote: I'm terrible about starting games and never finishing them. I can't think of the last time I played a game for the first time that I eventually finished. It must have been years ago. The only games I've completed in the last several years have been old-school Zelda and Mario games, which are comparatively short when compared to most JRPGs. If something has a running time of longer than about ten hours, I probably won't finish it.

Which is a shame, because the Persona series seems like the kind of thing I would otherwise enjoy, but I very obviously just don't have the patience for JRPGs anymore.
It's not so much time, as much as it's your shit attention span. JRPGs like Persona are not a sprint, they're a marathon. I spent two years on the bus to work doing NG, NG+, NG++ and NG+++ on Persona 3 Portable. It was just a matter of taking my time and having something to do. Didn't hurt that the game's soundtrack fucking owns.
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