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This is a ridiculous statement. As a consumer I do not give a flying fuck about how a game was made. Would you give your personal GOTY (not that any adult needs to validate things like that) to a game that didn't boot? What if it was developed by a blind person, had a third of its initial budget, and didn't boot? I've been involved in creating shipping commercially released games, and I wouldn't want someone to defend an bad/mediovre game that I was involved in because of how it got made. That is not their fucking problem. They are a consumer who paid for a product, and the product that is made better be worth their money. NOTHING matters but the final product.
It's a good thing FFVI isn't an inferior product that doesn't boot or was developed by a blind person then. By even making this comparison and not actually addressing my other criticisms of your opinions you're basically conceding my point.

I laughed out loud. Only a fucking idiot tries to turn their opinion into an objective and quantative ranking of art (a title that I degrade by applying to Final Fantasy). I'm aware people do it, but if it is anything but a subjective individual list (a single youtubers favorite game of the year instead of an institution) so that consumers who find that their tastes align can use it as a roguh measuring stick is really dumb.
Thanks for calling me a fucking idiot!
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“The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. If you can’t lick ’em, join ’em. If it hurts, repeat it. But to praise despair is to condemn delight, to embrace violence is to lose hold of everything else. We have almost lost hold; we can no longer describe happy man, nor make any celebration of joy.”
-Ursula K. Le Guin, “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas

“I never knew a man could tell so many lies
He had a different story for every set of eyes
How can he remember who he’s talking to?
’Cause I know it ain’t me, and I hope it isn’t you”
-Neil Young, “Ambulance Blues”
I’m armed to the teeth
Like a fucking animal
I ruin everything
I get my bony hands on

And here we go now over the bridge of sighs
We will get a cross like Christ, crucified
It’s like a birth but it is in reverse
Never gets better, always gets worse
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
Vaulting, veering, vomiting up the values that victimized me, feeling vast,
feeling virginal... was this how he felt? This verve, this vitality... this vision...

La voie... la vérité... la vie.
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The Dead Flag Blues
The car is on fire, and there’s no driver at the wheel, and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides, and a dark wind blows. The government is corrupt, and we’re on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn. We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death. The sun has fallen down, and the billboards are all leering, and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles.

It went like this: The buildings tumbled in on themselves; mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair. The skyline was beautiful on fire, all twisted metal stretching upwards, everything washed in a thin orange haze. I said, “Kiss me, you are beautiful; these are truly the last days.” You grabbed my hand, and we fell into it like a daydream or a fever.

We woke up one morning and fell a little further down; for sure it’s the valley of death. I open up my wallet, and it’s full of blood.
Gravity’s Rainbow
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we can watch the world devoured in its hate.
The late prophet Bill Hicks
I’m so sick of arming the world and then sending troops over to destroy the fucking arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries then we go and blow the shit out of ’em. We’re like the bullies of the world, you know. We’re like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder’s feet: “Pick it up.” “I don’t wanna pick it up, mister; you’ll shoot me.” “Pick up the gun.” “Mister, I don’t want no trouble, huh. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don’t even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain’t looking for no trouble, mister.” “Pick up the gun.” Boom, boom. “You all saw him. He had a gun.”

moar I’ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. “I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.” “I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.” “Hey, wait a minute, there’s one guy holding out both puppets!” “Shut up! Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you fucking morons.”

All governments are liars and murderers. Go back to bed, America! Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control again. Here, here’s American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed, America! Here is American Gladiators; here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom! Here you go, America: You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!

The Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that’s their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm… Sounds like… every commercial on television, doesn’t it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I’m not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that’s the connection they’re trying to make.

I have this feeling man, ’cause you know, it’s just a handful of people who run everything, you know… that’s true, it’s provable. It’s not… I’m not a fucking conspiracy nut; it’s provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scumfucks who got you in there. And you’re in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down, and a big guy with a cigar goes, “Roll the film.” And it’s a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you’ve never seen before that looks suspiciously like it’s from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, “Any questions?” “Er, just what my agenda is.” “First we bomb Baghdad.” “You got it…”

They don’t want the voice of reason spoken, folks, ’cause otherwise, we’d be free. Otherwise, we wouldn’t believe their fucking horseshit lies, nor the fucking propaganda machine of the mainstream media and buy their horseshit products that we don’t fucking need and become a third world consumer fucking plantation, which is what we’re becoming. Fuck them! They are liars and murderers. All governments are liars and murderers, and I am now Jesus, and this is MY compound.

The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it’s very brightly coloured and it’s very loud and it’s fun for awhile. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question, is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, “hey – don't worry, don’t be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride…” And we… kill those people. Haha. “Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real.” It’s just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus murdered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan… wounded. But it doesn’t matter because it’s just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It’s only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defences each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace. Thank you; you’ve been great.

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Toementor
Drav wrote: Personally though, I don't really get much out of talking about FF any more. I gave up on FFXIII after about 4 hours; besides that it's been almost 10 years since I've actually played one.
I think I got through about 2 hours, and then decided there was more character input if I just watched.
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Drav
Ⓐaron wrote: Thanks for calling me a fucking idiot!
Yeah CC, I'd kind of hope that after all these years we're not going back to name calling over JRPGs.
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Fidel Castro
Wow. Some of us, CC , seem to never have left our teenage years mentally when it comes to the serius biznis that is vidya gaems.
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Drav
I guess to be fair, video games (mostly) never gave us any incentive to be any better.
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Matt
So, anyway... I just finished Uncharted 3. Apparently for the first time, because everything after the chateau was new to me (I have the game for PS3 as well).

I can see why this game wasn't rated by fans as highly as the second. The ending was rushed, and you only catch a glimpse of this mysterious object that they've been looking for (rather than seeing it fully and even seeing some of the weird effects in the previous two - trying not to be spoilerish here). The death of the villians was very anticlimatic and not as satisfying as you'd think, and there was a lot of "oooh drugs" making you see weird things in the game.

Overall the set pieces were amazing, though, and the visuals were top fucking notch. Massively enjoyed the game. Looking forward to Uncharted 4.
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Sar
...yeah. I played Uncharted 3 when it first came out, and tried to give it another go a year ago or so. I remembered the setpieces (specifically the one where you fall out of the cargo plane) very cool, but then I felt like the combat didn't age well. At the beginning of the PS3's lifespan I thought the first Uncharted was super cool, but as the visuals improved I don't think the mechanics kept in pace and the combat and puzzle solving I felt became very bland. That said I thought The Last of Us was fucking brilliant and worked beautifully, so I'll play the fourth one if I ever get my hands on a PS4.

I just finished Arkham Knight. The reveal of the Knight's identity left me cold because it's exactly who I guessed it was all along and I was hoping they'd throw a twist at me (even after the reveal, I thought that there would be some sort of narrative double-cross), then I was quite enjoying the big action climax after that, and then the denouement totally fell flat, left a ton of shit open to interpretation, and I looked up the 100% completion ending (I'm not nearly autistic enough to spend the next two months collecting Riddler trophies for a one-minute cut scene) and it was just as uselessly bad. Overall I liked the game, I thought it was a great Batman game, but the ending left such a bad taste in my mouth. They did so many cool things with the dialogue and the setpieces, tying all of the action back to Batman, his friends and family and his relationships with the Joker and all of the other supervillains, but in the end the actual climax of the story was incredibly messy and uneven.
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Fidel Castro
Drav wrote: I guess to be fair, video games (mostly) never gave us any incentive to be any better.
True.
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Sar
I DM'd for the first time last night. I had run some combats for friends who were interested in D&D in the past, but this was my first time actually sitting behind a DM's screen and running an actual campaign. It was tough but fun, and I'm excited to do it again. The challenge is fairly unique. I thought all the PCs would die at one point but they did not, which was good.
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Matt
Sar wrote: ...yeah. I played Uncharted 3 when it first came out, and tried to give it another go a year ago or so. I remembered the setpieces (specifically the one where you fall out of the cargo plane) very cool, but then I felt like the combat didn't age well. At the beginning of the PS3's lifespan I thought the first Uncharted was super cool, but as the visuals improved I don't think the mechanics kept in pace and the combat and puzzle solving I felt became very bland. That said I thought The Last of Us was fucking brilliant and worked beautifully, so I'll play the fourth one if I ever get my hands on a PS4.

I just finished Arkham Knight. The reveal of the Knight's identity left me cold because it's exactly who I guessed it was all along and I was hoping they'd throw a twist at me (even after the reveal, I thought that there would be some sort of narrative double-cross), then I was quite enjoying the big action climax after that, and then the denouement totally fell flat, left a ton of shit open to interpretation, and I looked up the 100% completion ending (I'm not nearly autistic enough to spend the next two months collecting Riddler trophies for a one-minute cut scene) and it was just as uselessly bad. Overall I liked the game, I thought it was a great Batman game, but the ending left such a bad taste in my mouth. They did so many cool things with the dialogue and the setpieces, tying all of the action back to Batman, his friends and family and his relationships with the Joker and all of the other supervillains, but in the end the actual climax of the story was incredibly messy and uneven.


The Uncharted Collection (basically a remaster) does it justice, and they supposedly fixed some of the gunplay in the third one (but I can't remember to compare). The main thing is the 60FPS gameplay. Makes a huge difference to the overall enjoyment. It also looks better than some PS4 games.

Same for The Last of Us: Remastered as well!.
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Drav
Sar wrote: I DM'd for the first time last night. I had run some combats for friends who were interested in D&D in the past, but this was my first time actually sitting behind a DM's screen and running an actual campaign. It was tough but fun, and I'm excited to do it again. The challenge is fairly unique. I thought all the PCs would die at one point but they did not, which was good.
Out of interest, how long were you playing before you tried DMing? I've been thinking of offering to DM for my local game group since they have trouble finding people to run games.
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Sar
One year, but I've recently gotten really aggressive about learning all the ins and outs of 5E and to test my mettle gathered up four of my friends to go through the starter set. Assuming no one moves or anything, if we finish this adventure I want to try another one, then probably think about DMing for my local game shop.
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Sar
Also I've been watching Critical Role, which inspired me to want to DM and is a good way to learn 5E (by watching people play for three to five hours at a time).
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Drav
Cool, I might give that show a shot. Thanks.
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Sar
It's pretty great. Voice actors playing D&D, if anyone needs it sold a bit harder.
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Toementor
Sar wrote: Also I've been watching Critical Role, which inspired me to want to DM and is a good way to learn 5E (by watching people play for three to five hours at a time).
it's very cool, huh? I'd love to be as great as Matt Mercer in a irl game of D&D. He DMs so well. D:
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I'm intensely descriptive like he is, but he writes his own campaigns and they're so immersive and detailed and his descriptions are so specific and comprehensive. I have no idea how a person becomes that amazing.
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Matt
Started this for a couple of hours last night.

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Sar
I had the day off today and have been playing for about ten hours now. Taking a break for dinner then I'll be right back at it.
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Toementor
I have resumed playing Oblivion as I remembered that I had not finished it yet. Always getting side-tracked by side-quests in true Bethesda-game fashion. Currently finishing up the Fighter's Guild questline as I've finished the Knights of the Nine, Thieves and Arena ones. Next onto Dark Brotherhood methinks.

Whenever I get around to finishing it I'll probably move onto Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Is it better to start with one or the other? Are they connected? i.e if you finish FO3 and move onto New Vegas does it carry over your character or is it a start-a-new afair?
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Nope, they're unrelated. New Vegas (sort of) continues the story of Fallout 2 though.
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Toementor
Drav wrote: Nope, they're unrelated. New Vegas (sort of) continues the story of Fallout 2 though.
Right. Gotcha. Is one better than the other though?
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New Vegas, mostly because it has better role-playing and writing. Fallout 3 is a better sandbox experience (better level design, exploration etc.) but the writing is cringe-worthy. Seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen in an RPG.
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Matt-2 wrote: I've still to try that one out. Me and my partner started playing TWD S2 together and stopped, haven't picked it back up since, but she won't let me play it without her.

Have you tried the GoT Telltale game? If so, is it any good? My guess is that it's Telltale, and probably will be decent enough. They are on a bit of a roll.
Tales for the Borderlands is absolutely amazing. It just hits all the right marks for storytelling. Brilliantly paced, great characters, the humour is on top form, and its final chapter is easily the best work Telltale has ever done.

Drop everything you're playing right now and get on it! You won't regret it.

Game of Thrones is... decent. It suffers from living in the shadow of a show that simply has very better writing than it does. It tries to match the tone of the shows, but the limited play-time gives you far less time to get invested in the characters the way you do in the TV show. The plot is pretty solid though.

Toementor wrote: Right. Gotcha. Is one better than the other though?
New Vegas is generally considered to be the better of the two, due to far superior writing and gameplay.

That's mostly thanks to having Obsidian at the helm, who pretty much have an unmatched talent for great character development and a knack for layered storytelling. The perks system is much more indepth in New Vegas, and the (optional) survival mechanics are a lot of fun.
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Sar
Dude, I played New Vegas for the first time over the summer and some of the writing in that blew me away. The watchman from Novac trying to track down who killed his wife stands out as a particularly great mission.
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Kane
Fallout 4 like a motherfucker. 36 hours and I still haven't even gotten into the main story yet. I've built a lot of kick ass settlements though.
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Drav wrote: New Vegas, mostly because it has better role-playing and writing. Fallout 3 is a better sandbox experience (better level design, exploration etc.) but the writing is cringe-worthy. Seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen in an RPG.
As much as I sorta want to argue with the bold part, you're right. Level design wise and such, NV was pretty desolate while 3 had much more interesting locales. I think it was nostalgia for 1 and 2 that made me ok with how empty NV can feel.

NV made up for the difference and then some with better gameplay mechanics and much, MUCH better writing. I've gone back and replayed NV about once a year or so since it came out, and I still haven't bothered to reinstall 3 since I replaced my hard drive in 2012. I may never play it again, honestly.

Fallout 4, so far (I haven't done much at all of the main story) lacks the writing quality of NV, but most games do. Obsidian was not involved in this game (they were working on their crowdfunded game, Pillars of Eternity or something... which I'm going to have to check out at some point) so we're stuck with Bethesda. Fortunately it's not Fallout 3 bad from what I've seen. There were even some spots of genuine quality, like Vault 81, an optional zone with a very interesting story.

The gameplay, however, is FUCKING EXCELLENT. I've spent so much time doing sidequests and building settlements and stuff. Even if the main story sucks I don't think I'll give all that much of a fuck, I'll just go back to exploring and doing the cool side things.

I don't think this game will replace New Vegas as the best/most memorable of the series, but I also think some of the criticism I see on the internet goes way overboard. Then again, when has game criticism ever been calm and rational?
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Halfway up Mergo's Loft in Bloodborne. I thought I was really smart checking for spiders hanging from the roof and then I fell down a hole in the floor.
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Matt
Played and finished Uncharted 4. Great game. The 30FPS stuff annoyed me, considering how the multiplayer plays at 900p@60FPS, but looks identical in terms of graphics, but plays a lot nicer due to the smoother frames.
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