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L.A. Noire

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1067305p1.html

In the March 2010 issue of Game Informer (on stands this month), the first real details of L.A. Noire are revealed. Developed by Team Bondi (The Getaway), L.A. Noire is an open-world action-adventure game set in the City of Angels in 1947. Unlike previous Rockstar efforts, L.A. Noire exists in a real city, painstakingly recreated for historical accuracy. Don't expect the "shoot everyone" mentality of a Grand Theft Auto title -- this is something completely different.

You play as Cole Phelps, a beat cop looking to clean up the streets of L.A. It won't be easy, seeing as how the L.A. police force is mired in corruption from top to bottom. Phelps has his own issues to deal with, including some very bad things he did in World War II. Though he starts low on the totem pole, over the course of L.A. Noire Phelps progresses through a series of "desks" in the department, including traffic, vice and, ultimately, homicide.

As a detective, you have to solve cases through a mixture of investigations, interviews and interrogations. According to the article in GI, when you come across a scene, you won't find highlighted items sitting in obvious places. Crime scenes are said to look natural and require a deft eye to spot important clues. See a pair of glasses on the ground of a supposed murder scene and you can pick them up, noting details such as the brand etched on the inside of the frame. These little bits of information are jotted down on your notepad, which can be brought up at any time.

Things get a little more interesting in regards to the interview system. Team Bondi is using revolutionary technology that could change the way games are made. The new facial motion capturing system sets actors alone in a giant room with cameras all around. In full make-up, the actor delivers their dialogue. Every facial moment is recorded, from the most exaggerate of motions to the slightest twitch of an eye. The dialogue is recorded at this time as well, creating a seamless scene. All of this is then translated into a 3D game landscape with no animators needed. The result? According to GI, it's a picture-perfect rendering of the actor's scene. That's important to the gameplay.

When you interview someone, you'll need to watch their face and determine if they're lying. Like Mass Effect, your dialogue choices come from a handful of general options: coax, accuse or force. The way you handle an interview or interrogation is greatly determined by the reactions you get from the suspect. You can also refute testimony by selecting clues from your notebook.

Unfortunately, GI wasn't shown any of the gunplay, so the set-up for the action sequences is still a mystery.
This sounds really interesting and might actually be the sort of thing that could get me to start gaming again. I'm hoping for a L.A. Confidential/Chinatown/Dashiell Hammett type feel.
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un movimiento de la gente se ha juntado
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golpe de estado y seramos independientes
es hora de revolución nuevamente
lol last.fm chartsVoilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
Vaulting, veering, vomiting up the values that victimized me, feeling vast,
feeling virginal... was this how he felt? This verve, this vitality... this vision...

La voie... la vérité... la vie.

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The Dead Flag Blues
The car is on fire and there's no driver at the wheel and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides and a dark wind blows. The government is corrupt and we're on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn. We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death. The sun has fallen down and the billboards are all leering and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles. It went like this: The buildings tumbled in on themselves, mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair. The skyline was beautiful on fire, all twisted metal stretching upwards, everything washed in a thin orange haze. I said, "Kiss me, you are beautiful; these are truly the last days." You grabbed my hand and we fell into it like a daydream or a fever. We woke up one morning and fell a little further down; for sure it's the valley of death. I open up my wallet and it's full of blood.
Gravity's Rainbow
The Smashing Pumpkins
we can watch the world devoured in its hate.
The late prophet Bill Hicks
I'm so sick of arming the world and then sending troops over to destroy the fucking arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries then we go and blow the shit out of 'em. We're like the bullies of the world, you know. We're like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder's feet: "Pick it up." "I don't wanna pick it up mister, you'll shoot me." "Pick up the gun." "Mister, I don't want no trouble, huh. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don't even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain't looking for no trouble, mister." "Pick up the gun." Boom, boom. "You all saw him. He had a gun."

moar I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs." "I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking." "Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!" "Shut up! Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you fucking morons."

All governments are liars and murderers. Go back to bed, America! Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control again. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed, America! Here is American Gladiators; here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom! Here you go, America: You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!

The Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that's their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm... Sounds like...every commercial on television, doesn't it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I'm not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that's the connection they're trying to make.

I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know... that's true, it's provable. It's not... I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut; it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scumfucks who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down, and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?" "Er, just what my agenda is." "First we bomb Baghdad." "You got it..."

I thought the whole thing was an absolute disaster and a débâcle. And if any of you had been watching public access and seen the footage which was not shown on any major news media source... of the tanks, Bradley tanks shooting fire into the compound. Which I think went against the party line story, which was that they shot tear gas in order to help the mothers and the children to get out to convince 'em. While they're destroying the compound, they're getting mom and children out, you see. The soft sell is definitely the FBI's way. And anyway, so the major news said that the Branch Davidians started the fire, if I'm not mistaken. Correct me when I go off the story here. All they did was shoot in tear gas? And yet I've seen with my own eyes, and my squeegeed third eye, footage of a Bradley tank shooting fire into the compound, which... isn't that odd that no major news source has picked up on that? You think that's newsworthy? 'Cause that basically means that the government, from the FBI, the ATF, up to Janet Reno, including Clinton, are, um... liars and murderers. Hahahahaha. And wait, there's more. I mean the implications are vast. You know, if the ATF and FBI had any honour, if there was any honour left or dignity on this planet, they would commit hara kiri, while first admitting what they've done, and they'd kill themselves. Because they are liars and murderers. "Oh, we had to bust the compound down 'cause we heard child molestation was going on." Yeah, if that's true, how come we don't see Bradley tanks knocking down Catholic churches? I'm talking if child molestation is actually your concern. "Well there was a methamphetamine lab on the..." No there wasn't.... They don't want the voice of reason spoken, folks, 'cause otherwise we'd be free. Otherwise, we wouldn't believe their fucking horseshit lies, nor the fucking propaganda machine of the mainstream media and buy their horseshit products that we don't fucking need and become a third world consumer fucking plantation, which is what we're becoming. Fuck them! They are liars and murderers. All governments are liars and murderers, and I am now Jesus, and this is MY compound.

The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question, is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "hey - don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride..." And we... kill those people. Ha ha. "Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus murdered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan... wounded. But it doesn't matter because: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace. Thank you; you've been great.

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Feminist
Sounds pretty cool. I like investigative/clue gathering games (though most of them have been point-and-click in the past) so it's good to see that genre brought back.
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GonzØ
Exactly the kind of game I've been waiting for. Postwar L.A. is one of the best settings for a noir, and making a noir detective game set there will probably be unimaginably good.
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The Nefarious Neobum
Fuck you. Fuck you for getting me excited, Aaron. This looks brilliant and I'm stoked. And whenever I'm stoked I get horribly disappointed. See, by the time this game's released, the coolest features will have been cut due to the money-men wanting it in stores before the code-goblins are done and whatever's left will have been dumbed down to the point where the general public will buy it - i.e. to an unplayable level. Fuck.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Sai
I definitely need this.
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Drav
Yeah, this definitely sounds awesome. As neobum says though, it sounds like the exact sort of game that they'll have to neuter in order to sell it to the idiot masses. Hopefully they just through in an easy mode or something instead of ruining the whole game.
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Aaron
It's also worth noting that despite initial reports, this will be developed for both PS3 and 360.
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J. Robert Oppenheimer wrote:We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered a line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
un movimiento de la gente se ha juntado
peleando, liberando los pueblos encarcelados
golpe de estado y seramos independientes
es hora de revolución nuevamente
lol last.fm chartsVoilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
Vaulting, veering, vomiting up the values that victimized me, feeling vast,
feeling virginal... was this how he felt? This verve, this vitality... this vision...

La voie... la vérité... la vie.

ffof · tls · eoff · ffr · ff · pfhorums · wf · asoiaf · tmv · reds · lj · last.fm · ms · fb
(SPOILER)
The Dead Flag Blues
The car is on fire and there's no driver at the wheel and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides and a dark wind blows. The government is corrupt and we're on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn. We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death. The sun has fallen down and the billboards are all leering and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles. It went like this: The buildings tumbled in on themselves, mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair. The skyline was beautiful on fire, all twisted metal stretching upwards, everything washed in a thin orange haze. I said, "Kiss me, you are beautiful; these are truly the last days." You grabbed my hand and we fell into it like a daydream or a fever. We woke up one morning and fell a little further down; for sure it's the valley of death. I open up my wallet and it's full of blood.
Gravity's Rainbow
The Smashing Pumpkins
we can watch the world devoured in its hate.
The late prophet Bill Hicks
I'm so sick of arming the world and then sending troops over to destroy the fucking arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries then we go and blow the shit out of 'em. We're like the bullies of the world, you know. We're like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder's feet: "Pick it up." "I don't wanna pick it up mister, you'll shoot me." "Pick up the gun." "Mister, I don't want no trouble, huh. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don't even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain't looking for no trouble, mister." "Pick up the gun." Boom, boom. "You all saw him. He had a gun."

moar I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs." "I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking." "Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!" "Shut up! Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you fucking morons."

All governments are liars and murderers. Go back to bed, America! Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America! Your government is in control again. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed, America! Here is American Gladiators; here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom! Here you go, America: You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!

The Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that's their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm... Sounds like...every commercial on television, doesn't it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I'm not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that's the connection they're trying to make.

I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know... that's true, it's provable. It's not... I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut; it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scumfucks who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down, and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?" "Er, just what my agenda is." "First we bomb Baghdad." "You got it..."

I thought the whole thing was an absolute disaster and a débâcle. And if any of you had been watching public access and seen the footage which was not shown on any major news media source... of the tanks, Bradley tanks shooting fire into the compound. Which I think went against the party line story, which was that they shot tear gas in order to help the mothers and the children to get out to convince 'em. While they're destroying the compound, they're getting mom and children out, you see. The soft sell is definitely the FBI's way. And anyway, so the major news said that the Branch Davidians started the fire, if I'm not mistaken. Correct me when I go off the story here. All they did was shoot in tear gas? And yet I've seen with my own eyes, and my squeegeed third eye, footage of a Bradley tank shooting fire into the compound, which... isn't that odd that no major news source has picked up on that? You think that's newsworthy? 'Cause that basically means that the government, from the FBI, the ATF, up to Janet Reno, including Clinton, are, um... liars and murderers. Hahahahaha. And wait, there's more. I mean the implications are vast. You know, if the ATF and FBI had any honour, if there was any honour left or dignity on this planet, they would commit hara kiri, while first admitting what they've done, and they'd kill themselves. Because they are liars and murderers. "Oh, we had to bust the compound down 'cause we heard child molestation was going on." Yeah, if that's true, how come we don't see Bradley tanks knocking down Catholic churches? I'm talking if child molestation is actually your concern. "Well there was a methamphetamine lab on the..." No there wasn't.... They don't want the voice of reason spoken, folks, 'cause otherwise we'd be free. Otherwise, we wouldn't believe their fucking horseshit lies, nor the fucking propaganda machine of the mainstream media and buy their horseshit products that we don't fucking need and become a third world consumer fucking plantation, which is what we're becoming. Fuck them! They are liars and murderers. All governments are liars and murderers, and I am now Jesus, and this is MY compound.

The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question, is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "hey - don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride..." And we... kill those people. Ha ha. "Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus murdered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan... wounded. But it doesn't matter because: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace. Thank you; you've been great.

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Drav
It will no doubt go to PC as well.
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The Nefarious Neobum
Timothy Henderson wrote: Yeah, this definitely sounds awesome. As neobum says though, it sounds like the exact sort of game that they'll have to neuter in order to sell it to the idiot masses. Hopefully they just through in an easy mode or something instead of ruining the whole game.
You can't sell "advanced", man. My money says it'll end up being a generic rail-shooter with trace elements of a beautiful could-have-been.
Timothy Henderson wrote: It will no doubt go to PC as well.
Yeah, six months to a year later. And, being a port, the controls and menus will be made of unintuitive and maladjusted fecal matter.
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Drav
I see you've played Borderlands!
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Roger Mexico, Gentleman
Sounds awesome.
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The Nefarious Neobum
Timothy Henderson wrote: I see you've played Borderlands!
Nope. I hear it's all about the guns. It any good?
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The Artist Formerly Known as Sai
Yes.

Though, I still definitely prefer FO3 to it.
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Drav
They're only vaguely comparable.

It's alright if all you're looking for going into it is a game where you shoot things and watch numbers go up. There is basically nothing else to it. One thing I found really annoying was how dependant damage output was on your level; you could be at level 7 and barely be able to scratch a boss, yet fight him again at level 9 and you can kill him in a few hits. The interface was obviously designed for consoles, and it does that stupid shit Oblivion did where you have a pointer in the centre of the screen that tells you exactly where you need to go to solve each quest, even when you shouldn't logically have that information.

So yeah, try it if you want but don't go in expecting anything other than the usual mainstream stuff. It's not the GOTY material reviews made it out to be.
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The Nefarious Neobum
That sounds like the last thing I'd ever want to play.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura
That does sound interesting and I do like Rockstar games, generally, however the lack of running around and killing all the civilians are not going to make this a fun game.
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Drav
You're the reason we can't have nice things!
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Lt. Nyota Uhura
Yes, but instead we have awesome things. You can't tell me Modern Warfare 2 didn't float your boat, when for the first time you're in that airport and you just slaughter the civillians.
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The Nefarious Neobum
Go the fudge back to GTA and don't meddle with things you don't understand.
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GonzØ
MW2 sucks
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Aryn Freid
I had absolutely no interest in MW2. Still don't.
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Roger Mexico, Gentleman
As far as multiplayer FPS goes, it's pretty much the greatest.
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Lt. Nyota Uhura
Oh guys, you erally don't have to live up to the lame geek loser title just because you post in a forum. Why so offended? Anywho, I didn't say I thought it looked bad. I saw the trailer but it'd be nice to see a more recent one.
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The Nefarious Neobum
MW2 is really good for what it is. Well, it's quite good. Better than many. But in the grand scheme of things... well, it's marketed to the casual gamer and I think that speaks for itself.
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Roger Mexico, Gentleman
Except, it isn't. Casual gamers get steamrolled and then never play it ever again.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Sai
Hahaha yeah.

And stop hating on casual gamers. If we didn't have them, developers wouldn't have enough money to finance anything, especially the obscure shit you like.
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The Artist Formerly Known as Sai
Hahaha yeah.

And stop hating on casual gamers. If we didn't have them, developers wouldn't have enough money to finance anything, especially the obscure shit you like.
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The Nefarious Neobum
Daisy wrote: And stop hating on casual gamers. If we didn't have them, developers wouldn't have enough money to finance anything
Financing sequels and remakes doesn't justify this kind of shit.
especially the obscure shit you like.
The "obscure shit" I like is predominantly made by developers who, while they'd probably give an arm and a leg for a fraction of the money companies like EA gladly pour over the developing teams of their best seller sequels, don't see much revenue because, at the end of the day, you just can't sell 'advanced'.
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Roger Mexico, Gentleman
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Daisy wrote: And stop hating on casual gamers. If we didn't have them, developers wouldn't have enough money to finance anything
Financing sequels and remakes doesn't justify this kind of shit.
especially the obscure shit you like.
The "obscure shit" I like is predominantly made by developers who, while they'd probably give an arm and a leg for a fraction of the money companies like EA gladly pour over the developing teams of their best seller sequels, don't see much revenue because, at the end of the day, you just can't sell 'advanced'.
Fuck yeah I bought Madden 2010.

And Mirror's Fucking Edge.
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Dude, hating on a game because it isn't good? Fine. Hating on it because it's popular? That just makes you a dick.
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